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Chakras & LSD - Chakras
| Chakras & LSDokey here is my question...some days ago i took an LSD...it was gr8 bla bla bla....when i came home and tucked myself into bed i felt enormus warmth, pleasure, happines in the area of my chest, i know i was still under the influence of LSD and i might mixed some stuff in my head...but that felling was so real and i wanted to shrink my self into that "hole" in my chest...first thing that came to my mind was that my chakra opend....sound silly but...anyone can tell me that might be true ?? |
| You can find many methods of opening your chakras that don't involve the use of drugs. |
| first off you were probably still just tripping and I would not recommended trying to open your chakras sober let alone under the influence of LSD. |
| What is a Chakras? And when you say open it, do you mean cut it open? |
| please help me with this? |
| What is LSD in the first place? Where I just know what chakra is from the Japanese animations I've seen so far. I can also feel good when I am alone even though I haven't ask some one to open my chakra for me. It is all in the mind and that is what they are doing to you. Manipulating you to believe that you will feel better once they have "allegedly" opened your chakras but the truth is they have done nothing. |
| I do not get the discussion that is going on. What on earth is an LSD. When you guys talk of a Chakra being opened is it a sort of thing just you believe has been done to you or do you practically see it being opened? |
| LSD is "lisergic acid", used widely in the 60´s and 70´s as a trip vehicle. It is well know as a halucinogen, causing psychotic trips that drive people crazy. Many fell off of buildings because they thought they could fly. Chakras, on the other hand, are a yoga term refering to "centers of spiritual energy" in our bodies. Many yoga schools cultivate one or other of the chakras for spěritual evolution or growth. Balu is from a culture where yoga terms are used, so he knows about "chakras", and after his LSD trip associated that with the trip. Must say: mistakenly! Chakras are opened up by strict and disciplined spiritual execises. LSD just makes people "feel great", chemically induced happiness... Better forget it! Do yoga, Balu, instead of LSD. You might learn how to fly soon! Take care... |
| What is Chakra? A chakra is believed to be a center of activity that receives, assimilates, and expresses life force energy. The word chakra literally translates as wheel or disk and refers to a spinning sphere of bioenergetic activity emanating from the major nerve ganglia branching forward from the spinal column. Generally, six of these wheels are described, stacked in a column of energy that spans from the base of the spine to the middle of the forehead. And the seventh which is beyond the physical region. It is the six major chakras that correlate with basic states of consciousness... |
| I have heard about Chakra last year. One astrologer had offered me some stones that according to her would serve as my Chakra. But I don't really know what it means. |
| "chakras & LSD "
hi balu, im from mexico and i like LSD, I have try to discover something in LSD that makes me diferent from other persons, today I am believing that LSD might open the chakras because I have feel that circle of energy inside me in different parts of my body depending of how I feel that day or what am I thinking that makes me open that chakra, I cant tell you scientifically but there is something wounderful about LSD and Life, I just want to find the right person that could show me way, like Maria Sabina. |
|  "More about Chakras"
Well i think it's possible for chakras to be open through drugs because they alter your 'vibrational energy' however a lot of spiritual teachers do advice against it because you are literary forcing it, it's something that has to happen at the right time, that's why if you also force kundalini it may cause insanity or death! |
| LSD? Basing on the definition they have given above I can clearly state that LSD can be classified as a dangerous drug and should be regulated. If it is then its purchased shouldn't be as easy as buying a cough medicine. Chakra is another thing which is not really considered a general truth. It is an alternative approach to treating disease or medicine. So there is no guarantee that ingesting LSD can help conjure a state of an open chakra, when chakra's existence is still questionable. |
| Hmmm.. There are lots of things that influences the outcome of our body and health, and this kind of drug should indeed be regulated so that those people who are using or consuming them should be safe from all of the bad effects, if there are any. I would want to know more about Chakras and LSD so kindly post here some good link regarding this matter. Thanks a lot. |
| "Follow your instincts and heart"
listen to your heart. The first thing you thought of is that you heart chakra opened. This WAS true. Most of the other coments where made by either the programmed or the programmers. You CANNOT believe what they say about LSD. LSD is genetic catalyst that acts as an evolutionary growth inhibitor. The only part of the brain it destroys is the restrictive programming contained within. Despite most propaganda it does not cause any brain damage. IT DOES AND WILL OPEN YOUR MIND. There are negative and positive energies all around you and it is whichever you feed most that will become your experience be it a trip or just life. As far as it all being in your mind, well all reality is a reflection of your inner perception. If it seems like these spiritual states are easier to attain while under the influence of lsd or other psychedelics its probably cause they are. DON'T BUY INTO THE BULL. They do not want you to gain your personal power so they will tell you all that works and is effective is wrong and bad. follow your heart. They will also ridicule me and this message but I am not as they believe. They live and act in delusion while believing the opposite. |
| "Hallucenogens and spirituality"
Oh yea, and if you look at the time period where LSD use was extremely common and frequent among people in America alone, you will find that there where about 5 times more suicides and homicides that occured among people under the influence of alcohol. That's right ALCOHOL you know that nasty narcotic that everyone excepts as ok. The only addictive, intoxicating, life threatening and very commonly abused narcotic of which everyday use is accepted greatly in our society. There have been about as many suicides on lsd in that time period as there where suicides of sober minded people. Do to propaganda mostly those unfortunate incidence involving LSD where exploited through media. They dont tell you of the many cased where LSD has cured depression, psychosis and post traumatic stress disorder though. Those who own the media own the human mind. I have a degree in para psychology and astro cosmic shamanism. I have studied the effects of substances and how they effect the brain the body and the mind for over ten years. I also study tones frequencies and vibrations and how they interact with human consciousness, DNA and physical matter. I can say with confidence that CHAKRAS are not a mere theory or belief. Though they are utilized in alternative healing techniques, they are very much real and in most humans inactive. THEY ARE APART OF YOUR DIMENSIONAL VEHICLE WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. If you choose not to believe in their existence that's your loss. You will never be a complete being until you learn how to perceive and utilize them. They are much more than an idea or belief. Science can and has proven the existence of auric energy and channels of energy both bio kenetic and electromagnetic fields that exist and coincide with all living things. All matter is energy. These channels of energy within and outside of the physical body do have centers in which they are consentrated. SCIENCE HAS PROVEN THIS and most physicists use this knowledge of the body combined with the field of biology to study dna and genetic coding. You will not learn of this in most schools or universities as even some colleges and almost all high schools are still using textbooks from the 80's. But all the facts and info is out there don't take my word for it LOOK FOR YOURSELF. If you study dimensional frequencies you will see how chakras interact with human consciousness and development. As far as psychedelic drugs go they have always helped us to evolve. If there is negative energy and emotion within the user it will bring it out. But that is a mere fraction of the possibilities when looking at the positive things hallucinogens can and have done for us. Almost all religion and spiritual beliefs we know of where influenced by these plants and drugs. Even more common christian and catholic beliefs. What do you think the tree of knowledge was? Peyote, Mushrooms, maybe even plants containing LSA which is what LSD is made from. THATS RIGHT, LSD IS NOT A MAN MADE CHEMICAL! There is a chemical process in which LSA is extracted and the active alkaloids are isolated and enhanced. The finished product is LSD which is merely a concentrated form of the already naturally existing LSA which by the way is safe and has caused no known deaths. LSD is 100 times more powerful than LSA but it is no more a man made chemical than hashish made from cannabis. The ones who rule our societies and governments do not want us to gain power and control over our realities so they program us through media religion and false science to contain our thoughts and actions and control us and our beliefs. They do not want us to see how science and spirituality connect. They want only for us to be confused weak and powerless and only see how the two fields contradict each other. And they only contradict where lies have been replaced by truths about our origin and purpose on this planet and in this dimension. I have taken and experimented with LSD among other spiritual substances at least 600 to a thousand times. If what they say about LSD was true I would either be dead, psychotic or retarded. But I am an intelligent and educated person who has gained much insight and strength from these experiences. Even abilities such as controlled dreaming, Auric sight(the ability to detect vibrational energy visually), and control over the bodies endorphins to enhance strength speed agility ect. These abilities can be attained through training and meditation combined with psychedelic use. Yes you can attain these things with just training and meditation but under the right guidance these things will be developed much faster with the use of such allies as LSD psilocybin mushrooms or mescaline containing plants such as san pedro cacti or peyote. There are very negative and horrible energies beings and experiences out there waiting to scarE people out of the psychedelic experience , especially the spiritual psychedelic experience. But with positive shielding and the right guidance one can become a being of immense power, knowledge, and understanding with help from the use of these substances. Such an example is being made aware of ones chakra systems which act as dimensional gateways between the physical, emotional, and plasmic or light energy bodies which we all posses but are mostly not aware of at this level of consciousness and development. A state of development in which we have been stuck in for centuries and continue to be trapped in by our world leaders who by the way descend from completely different bloodlines than most of us. As I have said before many will ridicule me and this message but I do speak the truth. It's out there find it yourself and again follow your instincts and heart. |
| Of course, there would be some other people who would ridicule you but does it matter? You have a good point there and you really make me believe in those sorts of Chakras and stuffs. But there are still some questions in my mind. I just hope that I could understand this concept more since this information are new to me. But anyway, I just hope to hear from all of you guys. |
| "Dangerous"
Never try to achieve the spiritual with the help of drugs. It could be dangerous. You can easily practice spirituality without taking drugs. |
| "What is a drug?"
Don't let fear continue to rule you. You cannot put all drugs in the same category. LSD is not anything like heroin or cocaine and should not be feared and categorized as they are. The chemicals in which LSD , DMT, mescaline, magic mushrooms and a few others produce in the brain are the same chemistry that your brain produces naturally and even to a greater extent during REM sleep. THATS RIGHT ALL HUMANS EXPERIENCE A 6 TO 8 HOUR PSYCHEDELIC TRIP WHILE THEY ARE ASLEEP EVERY NIGHT. And we need the experience as much as sleep itself for our brain chemistry to rebalance. If you dont know how these "drugs" effect the mind and body and all you know is what you hear on tv and from others then you are just blindly and stubbornly blurting out what you hear from everyone else. Guess what, the men and woman and beings that invented these meditative and spiritual techniques had help and guidance from spiritual allies, including those you would call psychedelic "drugs". Is cofee the same as heroin? No. And neither is LSD so if you want to view and research these things accurately then you wont toss them into the same categories. Heroin, various prescription pills, cocaine, Crystal Meth and Alcohol are dangerous and addictive drugs. The effects of heroin or alcohol cant even be compared to the effects that LSD has on the mind let alone put in the same category. Exactly what makes a drug considered to be a drug. Hallucenogens do not intoxicate the user, in fact just the opposite. Drugs that intoxicate have effects that disconnect one with themselves and reality. a cheap escape if you will. Substances like lsd enhance the senses and activity in the brain as a pose to hindering them. The psychedelic experience especially the spiritual kind makes the user more aware of themselves thier actions and the world around them. UNLESS the user is fearful. Thier is absolutely no danger without fear. There is no "bad Trip" without fear. weather in a psychedelic experience or just a run in with the paranormal, you are only vulnerable to negetive attacks when given into fear. Most of the fear that comes from lsd is not from the effects but from the fear associated with the propaganda that goes with it. If you believe that a substance especially a psychedelic substance will have a certain effect then your fear of that will manifest it. These are very powerful substances but should not be feared. Iam not saying that they should be used all the time. The goal is to attain and develop certain abilities and states with the help of these "drugs" as you call them through spiritual training so that the abilities can later be attained without the help of the allies. There are right and wrong ways to engage in the use of these allies. Most, especially those who use them recreationally do not use them correctly. This also can go badly these are very sacred and powerful forces. This is why I reccomend a shaman or spiritual guide or at least one who is experienced at the spiritual psychedelic journy to guide the user through. These allies are not for everyone. Some will do better without them. Many do not need the extra help and guidance however most humans do. Some of us are amde and engineered to handle and function perfectly under the influence of these allies. Some will awaken faster without them. LSD is like a computer upgrade to your psyche. Your software must be compatible with the upgrade or you could burn your computer out. But those of us who are equipped with the right hardware and the efficient memory for the spiritual upgrade WILL become stronger, faster and more advanced. If heroin is a drug than LSD is something completely different. If there where a substance or drug that brought us closer to god and ourselves and showed us the secrets of the universe it would be controlled, regulated and made illegal by our lawmakers and world leaders out of fear of loosing control over us. We as humans have the power ourselves but unfortunately we need help to find it. If we all had the right help the world would not be as it is today. Those who run our media and make our laws love to mix good things in with evil things so people grow confused and don't know the difference. They do this with drugs and also with the truths and lies regarding religion. It is an age old technique for keeping the people ignorant and guess what, It's worked wonderfully unfortunately for us. They cannot expect us to be blinded forever though. |
| "Listen to Kain Ratziel"
He knows what he's talking about. Although I'm still new to my spirituality, I would have never even of found it if I hadn't taken LSD. I started doing drugs at a young age, and started selling drugs to pay for my drugs... I started to become hateful and ignorant, ready to fight anybody for any reason. But as I started to take LSD everything changed, I became a completely different, and better person. If I never took LSD I would probally be in jail right now, but instead I'm a loving and caring person who appreciates the gift of life. As Kain Ratziel said, LSD isn't for everybody, but when the right person finds it nothing else compares. I've even taken different tests sober and on LSD and to my suprise I did better on most of them when I was on LSD. Kain Ratziel is also right on media controlling us, ask any sociologist and they will tell you. I don't really have to say anything else because Kain Ratziel covered everything, I just thought I would back him up as I know for a fact that everything he said is true. |
| "definitely possible"
Many years ago I used to take LSD. At the time I always appreciated the insights I had when on it. I always considered a spiritual experience but one that I could not reconnect with without the drug. About 20 minutes or so after ingesting the drug I always felt a rush of energy, mostly in my chest. We thought that this was speed or some other drug that was somehow mixed in with the LSD. More recently I have been practicing yoga. I have been spontaneously feeling a strong sense of energetic activity in my chest. Talking with one of my main teachers leads me to believe that it is related to my heart chakra. Sometimes the sensation is identical to that sensation that I felt during the initial phases of the LSD trip. I now think that the two are very much related. I don't plan on using drugs anymore but I want to continue my exploration/practice of yoga and hopefully return to the states where I can again realize great spiritual insights and awakening. I think that LSD allows you to peer into the room but that a well disciplined spiritual practice will allow you to stay in the room. Best of luck on your journey. |
| "Good insight"
I would have to agree. And even the ally could only take you so far. It is up to the voyager to continue the journey. Most take the substances for the wrong reasons and most don't even recognize the spiritual phenomena and mistake the experiences for a drug induced hallucenation or trip. A well disciplined spiritual practice will take you to the same places and teach you to go beyond and maintain the heightenedstates of reality. Many of these particular systems of spiritual knowledge do involve the use or guidance of substances that summon guides or allys. Many do not. You will not get very far with just the allys and no spiritual practice or at least acknowledgement. But as I have said many have reached the same heightened higher states with systems that do not involve thier use. |
| "pshhhhh....Kain Kain"
I just want everybody reading yo know that Ratziel is simply regurgitating the words and fantastic ideas of Carlos Castenanda, the writer of a few books concerning Psychadelics and the "astral plane".... although Kain writes in a persuasive manner his facts are distorted and his wonderful ideas are copied, near word for word, from a man who has been debunked as a con-artist writing fictional tales for profit. Go take Lsd and sit under a tree, I am sure you will come out a spiritual guru in comparison to the trickster and the tricked we have here. |
| "You are aware that you are being obviouse"
You must be aware that you are doing their work. Either that or you are unfortunately just another puppet. I feel bad for you if you really believe that I was sitting aroung copying word for word Carlos Casteneda or even had one of his books in front of me when I was writing these statements. You are so incorrect it brings joy to me that you are presenting me with an opportunity to REFLECT on your comment and your attempt to discredit or debunk my statements. It is even funnier that someone can be so naive to actually believe that Carlos Casteneda made up these teachings as if he where the first person who thought of this stuff and the teachings weren't practiced by shamans and tribal people throughout the friggin ages! Come on! Smarten up! I have read many books and researched more than one system or method of majik and shamanism. Yes I have read a few Casteneda books but he was far from my main influence, though his writings do incorporate real knowledge. He probably changed names dates and places in his writings to protect his family and friends and for good reason. look what they have made him out to be. He is a prime example of how Our governments will ridicule us make us look insane and even kill us and call us terrorists. And you my friend are one of the agents who carry out this bogus programming weather you know it or not. But I think you do:)Because you couldn't be so stupid as to not realize that even if carlos was a con artist he was still writing about real teachings that had been passed down by real indians who practiced real techniques for thousands of years before Carlos ever picked up a friggin pen! And I know your not dumb enough to blindly assume that I get all or even a decent portion of my information from Carlos considering that Carlos never once mentioned LSD or LSD use! never incorporated its use in any of his writings and never used the term chakra or even mentioned chakras. Although Don Juan did mention the fields of life energy connected to the sphere of energy he referred to as the luminous egg in which all humans and life beings posses. The Chakra system is in fact a part of the luminous egg but different termenology is used. Merkaba vehicle is another cultures term for Don Juan's luminous egg. You can find this info scattered among ALL RELIGIONS AND ALL SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS! Not just in Carlos friggin Casteneda books! People really shouldn't make assumptions just because they have only heard of those things from Carlos Casteneda or they think that they know where I got my training because they have read a few Carlos books and buy into the bull of propaganda attacking him and his writing. Attempting to also discredit him shows that he has posed a threat to some order or world power and they where trying to shut him up! They can make him look crazy and make me look like a poser all they want but have fun discrediting the thousands of indians that have passed down the exact same knowledge for years untainted by copywrite agents of misinformation and confusion like you. Why thousands of indians and not millions? OH YEA! YOU KILLED THEM ALL I FORGOT! Well that's one way to shut em up eh bub?!! Guess it's easier to discredit people like me when theres less of them left to back us up! Oh and As if I haven't experienced these things hundreds of times first hand myself both with and without psychedelic help, it is extremely ignorant to assume that I even needed to reference ANY book during the statements I had written considering all I had in front of me at the time was my wife's laptop and an occasional pipe filled with cannabis:) No direct references or influences at the time other than my own memories and my own ability to access information and channel it. You can think that I copy cat carlos all you want but if you really have read Carlos then you'd know I didn't. So you and I both know You are using Carlos and his reputation the same way they did to try and take him down to get to me in your subtle and ineffective way. Because they either believe the truth or they do not you have no power and influence over them. And it is those individuals who have the sense and the power to see for themselves instead of taking either of our word for it, those are the ones you are failing to convince and it is those souls who are incorruptible warriors of light that will rise up and crush your lies and your mockery. I'd like you to quote one thing Carlos or Don Juan Matus said word for word that I have stated. And when you can't do that, well... WAKE UP AND GO ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF! |
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