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Natal Charts


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Joyce or Adam or Lisa from U.S.A. -

As an professional Astrologer since the

1960s, I am always curious to ask how

many people know what a Natal Chart is

and how it can enhance their life. The

following is a post I did earlier this

year about Astrology. I hope it will

shed some light on the subject for those

who are curious.

In my lifetime I have met more Astrologers who decided to take courses to disprove it and 9 times out of 10, they're the best Astrologers. I hate admitting it, but I also fall into that category. I thought it was a bunch of crap. Had my cousin Beverly not insisted I take her Beginners Astrology Course, I may have still thought it was a bunch of crap.

I still remember my reaction which was...No way (it was the sixties), that's a bunch of crap Beverly, besides I know the description of the Signs of the Zodiac, its all crap!

JOYCE!!! she said, it's not a bunch of crap and a lot more than knowing the Signs. Well, she challenged me. Having Moon in Sag, I had to take the challenge to prove to her it was all crap.

We took a fifteen minute break after the first two hours of the class.

What do you think she said smiling. Holy cow....what's with the math and the degrees, minutes, seconds, houses....I had NO IDEA it was like this.

It gets even more difficult Joyce, she said with a chuckle.

Astrology is becoming accepted but there is still a lot of misconception as to what it is and how it works.

Some people have a certain awareness of the terms, Ascendant, Rising Sign, Mid-Heaven and the Planets. Despite this, many, many people still believe that Astrology is based on their Sun Sign only and the predictions in the newspapers are what it is all about. Those predictions are based on the Motion Of The Moon.

The Moon goes into a different Sign every 2 to 3 days. Although the newspaper predications hit once in a great while, it is misleading.

I've always explained to students that predicting on the Motion Of The Moon in relation to the Sun Sign is the same as telling people....today all Italians will have a lot of work to do, the Irish will be happy but only if they leave the house, all black people will be pensive, all white people will find something that was lost.

In short....the predictions are vague and far too wide ranged, thus giving Astrology a bad name....even today with all the awareness of the Occult subjects in the past fifteen years...people still have no idea what a Natal Chart is and what it can do for them.

Astrology is an exact science based on mathematics. That's it! No hocus pocus, no visions.

Of course interpreting the Natal Chart or doing predictive Astrology is still mathematical but once the math is finished to calculate any Chart, we still work with degrees and minutes but require a great deal of skill to interpret and to predict.

It requires much study to become familiar with the Aspects (conjunct, square, sextile, trine, opposition) and the Orb allowed for each of those Aspects.

I still use the same words to students as I did during the first beginners Astrology Course I taught: be very, very, sure that you're math is correct before you begin interpretation and be very, very sure that you double check everything because this is a human life that you're messing with. Its true, very true and more so with Natals.

They are met to give guidance and to advise.

The correct time of birth is essential.An easy way to understand what a Natal is, think in terms of someone taking a picture of the solar system at the exact moment of a birth and before one comes out of the womb, somebody hands them a script.

In other words, the details are all there in the Natal as if someone had written a script of a person's life. It tells the career a person is best suited for and how they will perform. Each House represents a certain area of a life.The first House is Self...you alone facing the outer world and how you appear to the world.

The second House is values and finances.

Third, is the mind, immediate neighborhood, cousins, brothers and sisters.

Fourth is the base of operations, the home, the end of a matter.

Fifth, romance, creativity, speculation, and children.

Sixth, the health, the workplace.

Seventh, marriage, partnerships, anything on a 50-50 basis.

Eighth, death, sex, regeneration.

Ninth higher education, philosophies, religious beliefs .

Tenth, the community, those who have authority over you.

Eleventh, hopes, dreams, wishes, friends.

Twelfth, all that is hidden, things going on behind the scenes, hospitials, instituions, the sub-conscious.

This is only a very basic presentation as there are Planets and Signs to account for.

Most people who read a description of their Sun Sign say, well it sounds a little like me in some parts but.....this is because, the Sun Sign is the background of you...the Ascendant is the real you....everything is filtered through the Rising Sign.

Although I did Psychic & Card Readings before becoming an Astrologer some forty years ago and love doing all, Astrology has a special place in my heart, it is a continual learning process and one that I love. It is the mother of Astronomy.

c. Joyce Luciano


Comment #1 Fred (63.176.159.2) -

I don't believe in that kinda thing.


Comment #2 Wilma (63.176.159.88) -

Well Fred we are not forced to believe what he said about that Natal Chart thing, it is just some FYI. I too am not a believer of such things. If one believe in these things then he or she is a gullible person. It is not impossible that these individuals also believes that the world will come to an end at December 21, 2012 as the Mayan Civilization prophesied which we know is just like the Millennium end of the world which never happened.

Comment #3 Mary (63.176.159.168) -

There is no harm in believing with this stuffs as long as it does not affect your daily living as well as your relationship to others...and GOD. I myself do not believe in this kind of stuffs. Whenever I hear or read things like this one, I suddenly become upset, I do not know why :) Maybe because I feel sorry for those people who already spend dollars for a reading that we don't know if true or not.

Comment #4 LULUT (63.176.159.234) -

What is a natal chart?

In astrology, your natal chart (sometimes called birth

chart) is a graph that shows the positions of the planets

and astrological houses in the sky at the moment of

your birth.

How is my natal chart different from my horoscope?

Your natal chart is much more detailed and accurate than

your horoscope. A popular horoscope considers only the

position of the Sun, whereas your natal chart includes

hundreds of pieces of data. Mark Twain once said: "The

difference between a good word and the right word is like

the difference between fire and firefly." Similarly, your

popular horoscope may hold some hints of truth, but your

natal chart tells us the real story of your natural personality.


Comment #5 moy (63.176.159.10) -

I think I am one of those that had not heard of anything to so with natal charts. Daily, new revelations come up.

However, I do not think their relevance to modern life is any significant. I read the part about taking a photo of the solar system immediately after birth and handing the script to an astrologer.

I am not sure that is the right way to determine someone's career.


Comment #6 Chuck (63.176.159.196) -

I also think the same way moy. People are not machine that are programmed and dictated by numbers, figures and some astrological factors out there. That is why God has given us free will, choices and the power to decide. We are the maser of our own destiny. Those strange beliefs have nothing to do with us.

But for those people who still wishes to continue believing in this kind of stuffs then go on, just make sure that your decision making is not based on this forecasts.


Comment #7 Bryan from Los Angles -

You believe in free will... but can you prove you actually have it? Can you prove everything you do is your own choice and not a predetermined choice you are simply living out?

Are you not the product of your beliefs and thoughts? So, if you believe enough in Astrology it will be viable for you!


Comment #8 Eve (63.176.159.164) -

I love to learn about astrology, but I understand that many are believing it to be something of a falsified topic. Fiction, and nothing more. I would highly doubt this, however, and would surely love to learn about matters concerning space and thereabouts from the very one who designed it.

Comment #9 Eve (63.176.159.243) -

I love to believe that it is true, but in many an instance, this is not the case.

Comment #10 adam (63.176.159.61) -

Learning from the creator of the heavens and the earth, is surely what anyone would truly want in life. This is hard to come by, however, but easy for one to fall in love with if a person were simply to accept the fact that they do not have absolute control over things of the earth.

Comment #11 Lorie (63.176.159.4) -

You will become a product of your belief and thoughts if you chose to live with it, you have to choose whether to go with your 'beliefs and thoughts' or not, it is your power to do so, that is free will.

Like when you believe in certain kinds of stuffs and live with it, it is your choice.

But anyway, have a good day everyone and keep those posts coming.


Comment #12 Christine (77.42.0.174) -

Astrology, lots of people believes in it, and as to what you are saying Bryan, if only you believe to astrology then you are viable to it. What if we don't?

I have to agree that our life is not predetermined at all. Our life is what we choose our life to be. The outcome of what we do before and the life we are to have in the future depends on how we act today.

I do not want to be a living character of a story that has been long been written. I want to be that character who will live his life and makes his own story.


Comment #13 Bryan from Los Angles -

"Society Belief"

Our culture and societies believe in astrology has also made it "viable".


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